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Post by Jestor on Nov 14, 2013 11:26:15 GMT
So the dispersal draft is off to a much slower start than anticipated, and the current rate, we're looking at a real life month before the season starts.
To that end, I'm putting up for vote whether we continue with the draft while we're still just in Round 1 of 12, or to start with one of the rosters.
Dispersal Draft --------------------- -Will allow GMs to continue building their roster. -However, will also be a month before we get started most likely
2012/13 Roster --------------------- -Can load in the 2013 rookie class, so offers the fastest start -Rosters outdated by a year
2013/14 Roster -------------------- -Will have a slight delay while a 2014 roster class is created -Most current rosters
If we do switch to real rosters, GMs will be allowed to switch teams if they wish, since I know at least some of the GMs prefer to pick based on the rosters available to them. However, rights to the currently filled teams will belong to the GM already having that team.
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Lukc
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Post by Lukc on Nov 14, 2013 11:30:56 GMT
Dispersal draft. If I couldn't get OKC, I would most likely leave otherwise to be honest.
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Post by DennisJ on Nov 14, 2013 11:34:46 GMT
2013/2014 rosters, actually I think I will leave the league due to dispersal :/
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Post by goikiri on Nov 14, 2013 11:45:33 GMT
I'd like to continue with dispersal draft, but I'm willing to follow in any direction
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Post by ranger on Nov 14, 2013 11:48:44 GMT
Latest rosters for me. I won't leave if the poll goes another way, but I'd definitely be most excited to start with the real current teams and guide our franchises from there. After all, aren't we all supposed to be fans of the team we're managing?
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Post by Cleasby on Nov 14, 2013 11:56:07 GMT
Dispersal draft. If I couldn't get OKC, I would most likely leave otherwise to be honest. Arnt okc a open team at mo so you could take them?
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Post by querejeta on Nov 14, 2013 12:01:42 GMT
i'd like to continue!
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Post by dwk on Nov 14, 2013 12:03:52 GMT
I will not leave which ever way we go, that said I would like to stick with the Dispersal Draft
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Dylan
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Post by Dylan on Nov 14, 2013 12:23:15 GMT
I'd prefer to go with the dispersal draft. But will do whatever the league likes.
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Post by Jestor on Nov 14, 2013 12:39:42 GMT
What if we had the AI finish the draft after the 2nd round? That way teams could still pick two key players and sort out the rest.
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Post by Jamal on Nov 14, 2013 12:55:37 GMT
It's easy that the dispersal takes two weeks, but that's the normal timing imo. Just compare it with the draft. It usually takes nearly a full week to complete a rookie draft that consists of just 2 rounds.
Saying that, my suggestion for the dispersal is that there's a time limit per round. For example, 20hs for a complete round or whatever (so that it doesn't go way to fast and people can make lists if they're not available). And if you're not going to be able to pick make lists. That way it should be a 15-20 player least worst case, and only if you're not going to be available. And then make the 8hs acumulable. We tend to wait for the same players every round acording to my personal experience, and they don't even try to make a list. Yesterday we made 7 picks in 15 minutes, and most of the GMs here are online multiple times a day, so it can be done fast.
So my vote goes to keeping the original idea of the draft. If not, I'll go with the 2012/13 Roster season restart as my second opcion, and the autopick as my last (too many ugly contracts that could spoil/limit a team out there for an autopick. I don't usually like half made things, prefer to do a full dispersal draft or just start with 'real' rosters).
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Post by dapralbe on Nov 14, 2013 12:58:15 GMT
Ok for me great idea jestor! Two rounds. Its fair.
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Lukc
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Post by Lukc on Nov 14, 2013 13:01:33 GMT
Two rounds then AI is the worst idea probably - you pick 2 players you want to build around then you get totally random guys that might not even fit your scheme. That's a waste of time imho
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Post by Jestor on Nov 14, 2013 13:02:20 GMT
It's easy that the dispersal takes two weeks, but that's the normal timing imo. Just compare it with the draft. It usually takes nearly a full week to complete a rookie draft that consists of just 2 rounds. Saying that, my suggestion for the dispersal is that there's a time limit per round. For example, 20hs for a complete round or whatever (so that it doesn't go way to fast and people can make lists if they're not available). And if you're not going to be able to pick make lists. That way it should be a 15-20 player least worst case, and only if you're not going to be available. And then make the 8hs acumulable. We tend to wait for the same players every round acording to my personal experience, and they don't even try to make a list. Yesterday we made 7 picks in 15 minutes, and most of the GMs here are online multiple times a day, so it can be done fast. So my vote goes to keeping the original idea of the draft. If not, I'll go with the 2012/13 Roster season restart as my second opcion, and the autopick as my last (too many ugly contracts that could spoil/limit a team out there for an autopick. I don't usually like half made things, prefer to do a full dispersal draft or just start with 'real' rosters). You bring up a good point with the contracts, but one way around that is to dismiss the hard cap penalties for the first season to give teams time to adjust their financial situations
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Post by Jestor on Nov 14, 2013 13:04:29 GMT
Two rounds then AI is the worst idea probably - you pick 2 players you want to build around then you get totally random guys that might not even fit your scheme. That's a waste of time imho On the other hand, that opens up more opportunities for trades.
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Post by donkey33 on Nov 14, 2013 13:05:30 GMT
What's the rush? Not like everyone isn't in other leagues that we need to speed up and finish it quickly.
Personally enjoy drafts and the strategy involved in picking a team but I'm okay with whatever as long as it's not the AI idea.
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Post by Jestor on Nov 14, 2013 13:07:41 GMT
Okay, thus far the discussion (and the voting) seems to be trending towards the dispersal draft.
We're also seeing two main threads emerging:
1) 2 rounds manual, then auto-draft 2) Keeping the dispersal draft manual, but establishing a 20-24 hour window per round, which would require lists to be submitted.
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Lukc
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Post by Lukc on Nov 14, 2013 13:10:35 GMT
I personally am for this:
24-hour window for 15 picks - that way lists are short enough and draft moves at a decent pace - worst case scenario is 2 days for 1 round.
24-hour for 1 round imho is too much simply because it's exponential easier to make a 15-player list (a quality list) than a 30 player one. And even 15-player lists are no picnic.
Another option would be a 12-hour window for 10 picks - that way you would get lists for 10 teams every 12 hours, post the picks on boards and new 10 gms would send you picks...
EDIT: I also agree with donkey; there's no rush really imho - I mean, if we take extra 10 days for the draft to be completed right, what's the harm? If this league has a chance to be a long-term one, then I think it would be '10 days well spent'
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Post by blackice on Nov 14, 2013 13:30:40 GMT
I'd like to see a much shorter window for picks.
1st round: 4 hours 2nd round: 2 hours 3rd onwards: 1 hour
This forces guys to send in lists if they aren't around. I'm down with w/e though.
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Post by Jestor on Nov 14, 2013 13:38:01 GMT
I'd like to see a much shorter window for picks. 1st round: 4 hours 2nd round: 2 hours 3rd onwards: 1 hour This forces guys to send in lists if they aren't around. I'm down with w/e though. This isn't going to happen - we have far too many time zones for this to be feasible. If there is a shortening of a window, it'll be something like 24 for a round, 24 for 15, 12 for 10, etc.
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