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Post by canadasfinest on Aug 17, 2016 2:02:32 GMT
I think if the trade committee remains as long as we review trades with CPU it should be ok
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Post by saspurs on Aug 17, 2016 14:49:51 GMT
So....is the CPU trade dealings something that is 'offered', but not 'acted upon' until Commish or equivalent pushes an 'OK' button?
Ex. In a new 4-day sim, Spurs offer Elmore Spencer and #1 to Pacers for Robinson on Day 1, and miraculously Pacers accept. By Day 2-3-4 would the CPU move the players to the new teams, and a few games left in that sim the players play for the new squads.....BEFORE the next sim whereby a review of transactions could be seen, and the unfair deal found and revoked??
Sounds like headaches for sure. Unless we continue to do the same...post a trade...and have the nonCPU GM give the specifics, and give the in game 'acceptance' from CPU showing that if the deal was entered, the trade would go through from CPU approval?
ljw SAS
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Post by mgtr81 on Aug 18, 2016 3:48:03 GMT
@ bronson: Yes, most teams had cap room. @ Lon: All teams were under CPU control, so trades happened automatically. It would not be the same situation here. Just testing DDS AI for trades.
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Post by mgtr81 on Aug 25, 2016 11:18:14 GMT
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Post by mgtr81 on Aug 28, 2016 20:30:41 GMT
You will see that the salary cap has been reduced in the game. That is only to prevent trades involving cap space with CPU teams. We are still tracking the correct cap status with the spreadsheet for this season.
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Post by bronsonj3 on Aug 29, 2016 7:27:04 GMT
I like that, should stop the 1st round picks for salary trades.
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Post by johnd2442 on Nov 21, 2016 20:09:30 GMT
Hi all, I'm not sure if any of you will remember me. Unfortunately, I have to post as a guest because it appears my username/account was deleted, which makes sense since I haven't been part of Golden Age Hoops in five years. It doesn't seem that long!
I hope the league can get through its current adversity and find some dependable owners to fill out the league. I really loved this league for the time I was in it, from dealing with Manu and Jestor to the feature-rich Draft Day Basketball game to the league's particulars. All the way up until having to deal with the player agent.
While, in theory, the player agent idea is a wonderful feature, the experience I had completely turned me off from the league. For that reason, I could never come back to GAH whether I would like to or not, and it pains me to write that because this league is so well run by Manu the vast majority of the time from my experience. I wanted to write this in response to the e-mail that I received that Manu sent to recruit owners. Because constructive criticism, I feel, can only help improve the final product. Maybe I was the only one to have an unpleasant experience, and if that is the case, then feel free to disregard this message.
I was shocked to have the experience I did with the player agent because all of my previous interactions with the league were positive. When interacting with the player agent, I encountered nothing but hostility by the person acting as player agent, shielded by anonymity. I was shocked further, when addressing the situation with Manu, to get a "take it or leave it" type of attitude. That signaled to me that owner happiness wasn't really that important and that I was replaceable. I couldn't have been more disappointed because of the affinity I had had for the league and the enjoyment that I derived from it and time that I put in and had dedicated to the league. I doubt anyone else wrote as many articles for the league as I did in the time that I was part of GAH. Thus, my enjoyment was completely sapped and I realized it was time to go.
I truly hope that no one else has had the same unpleasant experience that I did. And if anyone has had others, I hope that Manu has responded in a more empathetic way than he did with me. Unfortunately, because my account has been deleted, I cannot see any private messages that were sent from five years back to reference. All I can do is rely on my memory, and unfortunately, my memory of the unfortunate events are pretty clear for me. I wish you all success and a full league as GAH was an enjoyable league to be in for me the vast majority of the time. You deserve it.
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Post by johnd2442 on Nov 21, 2016 20:11:16 GMT
I should follow up to add, I used to be the GM of the San Diego Clippers around the 1976-77 season.
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Post by mgtr81 on Nov 21, 2016 20:39:51 GMT
Good to hear back from you, John. Of course I remember you, and have good memories of your stay in the GAH ... otherwise you would have not received that e-mail.
Your account was never deleted. The old forum went down and we had to move here, so you never had an account in this current forum.
As for the Player Agent issues ... well, we are not using them right now. This will be the first offseason we will use the in-game Free Agency system. I can only have words of gratitude for all those who were PA's over the years, as they did an excellent job, but the system was not sustainable anymore.
As for the issue you mention ... I honestly do not remember being that cold, so I apologize now if I did not do it then. I had to deal with lots of things back in the day. I believe at the time I was also the Rookie Head in another league (NLL), so while I consider myself a polite person it is likely that I could give an unappropiated answer for the reasons mentioned. You also need to take into account that sometimes is not easy being a Commissioner.
We are preparing some serious revamping of the GAH. And yes, the San Diego Clippers are one of the available franchises, in case you want to be back.
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Post by ranger74 on Nov 21, 2016 21:26:08 GMT
I remember there were some issues with PAs in the first few seasons. I was one of the PAs and I don't think I had any problems myself (other than people being understandably disappointed when a decision didn't go their way), but I do recall one agency in particular that people reported as being difficult/unpleasant to deal with. I'm not sure who was behind that agency at the time, but by the mid 80s seasons, I think they'd either been replaced or had adjusted their style to be a bit more open and friendly. I think the agency system was working very well for most of the league's history.
Anyway, as Manu said, the agent system is completely gone now and DDS is the only one to blame when things go wrong, so I hope you will reconsider coming back to the league.
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Post by johnd2442 on Nov 22, 2016 4:00:50 GMT
I hope you will take a long look at GAH and reflect and figure out why you are in the position you are in as a league. To be honest, when I received Manu's e-mail about trying to recruit owners, I was not surprised. My first thought was thinking back about why I left the league and the player agent is the sole reason, followed up by the "take it or leave it" attitude I got when addressing my concerns.
I'm happy for the league that you stopped using the flawed player agent system with people, like all humans who have inherent biases, responsible for it. Maybe on the whole they did an excellent job, but like I just wrote, in one specific instance, one player agent was largely responsible for driving an owner away who contributed a lot to league. That said, I never really felt that those contributions were valued much at the time. Also, that lack of validation from my experience is kind of indicative of the response that I got when addressing the situation back then I recall. Not coldness, exactly, just dismissive. I feel like there is a difference there, because I always felt like you cared about the league, Manu. The kind of 'thank you for bringing that up, but they do an excellent job' kind of response, like in other words, I must be nuts for having the opinion I did. That my opinion was irrelevant. I'm glad though that most owners liked the system and even more glad that the system has been eradicated and an objective game engine makes the decisions now.
It is funny, I wrote in my initial post that because of my experience in leaving the league, I could never come back to the GAH. And this was pretty much ignored, and I was still invited back. While I appreciate that, it seems more that you need warm bodies than you really care about having specific people back. Kind of like the running theme from five years ago, that my concerns weren't and aren't very important. My time and attention is the most valuable thing that I have and GAH betrayed that in addition to the trust that I gave the league that it would be run equitably. I gave too much of that time and attention in addition to loyalty to the league only to be let down.
I am sorry for my tone in this message. I feel like I am being very negative and I apologize for that. I felt it was important to again relay my experiences in that maybe it could contribute to the overall process of the league learning why it is in the position it is in now. I have been a commissioner in fantasy leagues for over 10 years, and I understand the difficulties. Also, you were always polite, and you were even polite in our interactions that I recall regarding the player agent in question. However, from just one day, two e-mails have come in from disaffected former owners of the GAH. I'm not sure what their history with the league was, but it makes me wonder if it is related to where the league is now. That said, not only were you always polite, Manu, I felt that you were fair and a very good steward for the league and on the message board with always timely, always interesting and helpful posts. However, like I wrote in my previous message, I hope for the best for GAH.
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Post by mgtr81 on Nov 22, 2016 6:46:30 GMT
Thanks for the feedback, John.
I know that you and a couple of other GM's left because of the PA system. However, I can tell you that this is a minority. A lot of different GM's have been part of the league during its 17 seasons of existence. The reasons why each of them stepped down are different, but I know most of them. And believe me, the PA system is not the first nor the second or third cause of that. Still, I appreciate the comments.
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Post by johnd2442 on Nov 22, 2016 22:00:27 GMT
Hi Manu, I appreciate the give and take. Unfortunately, I think you are missing my point, and it probably wasn't articulated very well. I realize now that you are never going to validate my experience regarding the player agents and will continue to maintain it wasn't a problem. That's fine; you can continue to do so. I kind of couldn't care less about the player agent system even though that was the reason my experience in GAH was soured ultimately even though 99% of my experience was positive.
You sent an e-mail looking to recruit GM's, but in my opinion only, do not seem to be earnest in hearing the concerns of why the former GM's that you've reached out to left or validating those concerns. If the player agent wasn't the first, second or third reason why people have left, I hope you've gone lengths to solving those issues of why they did leave. The player agent, as I detailed above, wasn't the only reason for my departure. I'm starting to realize that my concerns are falling on deaf ears, and I realize that you only have so much time in a given day and probably much to do. There's likely little reason to pay attention to a former owner who has already stated that he'd rather not come back to the league; I understand that. I was hopeful when I got your e-mail that by re-engaging in dialogue I might be able to get more than a "take it or leave it" type of reaction like I did five years ago. Unfortunately, I've gotten it again which disappoints me greatly. However, everyone's perceptions and experiences are different and I'm sure you'll get many new owners who love the league as I once did. And I hope that they never have a reason to share my disappointment.
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